Eric Nee: I couldn’t agree more. We’ve been able to Djibouti Email List line up so many important leaders and be able to talk with them about their views on critical issues. It’s really an important time to be doing this because society is really demanding more transparency and action from these leaders. And the leaders themselves have to really navigate these difficult and turbulent times. Dan LeDuc: We’ve seen democracy really being put to the test in recent years, Djibouti Email List so we decided for the first episode we would look at the role of political polarization and how it’s playing out in some of the challenges we are facing. We often use a data point on our podcast, and I’d like throw one out here, and it’s this: The Pew Research Center found that Djibouti Email List 40% of both Republicans and Democrats not only disagree with people of the other party, but get this, they think that they are a threat to the well-being of the country. Eric Nee:

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When I hear that number, it really alarms me. But I Djibouti Email List unfortunately think it’s probably true. It certainly feels that way when you go on social media or you listen to some of the news or you see what’s going on in Congress. You really had a great conversation with Pew’s president and CEO, Susan Urahn, and Sarah Rosen Wartell, president of the Urban Institute Djibouti Email List, about how we got to this polarized period, but, more importantly, how we can get out of it. Dan LeDuc: While there is plenty of polarization, you see it in the headlines every day and in the data, but Sue and Sarah really give it some context—and in our conversation they talked about some Djibouti Email List recent bipartisan milestones that shows overcoming polarization really is possible. Here’s the conversation.

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Dan LeDuc: You both lead organizations that are all about fact-based, Djibouti Email List nonideological research and policymaking. Is this a lonely time for people who do what you do? Sarah, I would like to start with you. You’ve been leading the Urban Institute for nearly a decade now; what have you seen, and how has it changed? Sarah Rosen Wartell, president, Urban Institute: One of the other things that I’m increasingly seeing is that we are sorting ourselves by physically Djibouti Email List where we live with people who are more like us, who think like us. I don’t think people are intentionally saying, you know what, I really want to do is go live with other Republicans, or live with other Democrats, but they are trying to find communities where there are cultural affinities, Djibouti Email List and those communities are ones where then those same characteristics are things that have a lot to do with people’s politics. So, we are getting different information sources.

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